I deliberately rape, torture and kill 60 million people, at my own instruction, and ask for forgiveness and all is well with the lord
Yep... makes perfect sense
Your problem is the same as poor Bluebok. Yoiu are trying to convince yourself God is incompetent to judge justly. What unmitigated arrogance!!! The mind boggles!!!
I deliberately rape, torture and kill 60 million people, at my own instruction, and ask for forgiveness and all is well with the lord
Yep... makes perfect sense
Your problem is the same as poor Bluebok. Yoiu are trying to convince yourself God is incompetent to judge justly. What unmitigated arrogance!!! The mind boggles!!!
What rubbish is this
A just God treats a thief the same as a person who kills 60 million?
What a laugh. Not only is he not judging justly, he is then not ruling justly to allow this.
Answer my question regarding why the scriptures I quoted above are no longer being adhered to by Christians like yourself.
Honest question beeno:
If God came to you now and said right, your wife and daughter will come to heaven in the next hour because they were not virgins when they were married, and you need to kill your son right now because he was rebellious as a child.
Would you do it Beeno?
Would you know the difference between being some delusion in your mind, or God speaking to you without revealing himself?. Would you want him to display himself first to prove he exists before you did an act like this, or perhaps want him to perform some miracle directly in front of you to 100% confirm he is real, and that it is not some figment of a twisted or senile mind?
You would then have children that are left with no mother, and grand children with no mother, but it would appease your god.
Are you willing to swear on your entire family that you would do this in a heartbeat if this thought was put into your mind as "Gods Word" without him revealing himself to you.
Simple yes or no
And the final cop out, CC, is the following
None of us know when we are going to make our final next step in this life, to wherever or whatever we each believe it to be and that is precisely why most Christians pray to the Lord Jesus before going to sleep every night for their sins from that particular day, or maybe from a long time of not believing.
And that is all well and good, and I respect anyone who does that, like Beeno, who I actually think is a decent bloke, just delusional sometimes with his thoughts about some things.
Here is the outright hypocrisy though.
Some of those same Christians like you CC, (The sheep that got lost) will immediately start on Satan's path the very next morning, spewing filth on some website or in real life knowing that all will be good with the world once you pray to that same God that you did the previous evening, so you will be cleansed again and absolved of all evil, and sit smirking in the knowledge that you will be saved... again and again and again.(NO WE ARE SAVED FOREVER NOT AGAIN AND AGAIN. YOU SIMPOLY HAVE NO CLUE WHATSOEVER ABOUT WHAT SALVATION MEANS. DA YOU SPEK FROM TOTAL IGNORANCE. ALSO WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE CC?? HE IS IN THE POTTERS HANDS LIKE ME BEING CHANGED INTO THE LIKENESS OF CHRIST. ITS WORK IN PROGRESS. RATHER THAN JUDGING US TAKE A PEEK AT YOURSELF AND YOU WILL SOON REALSIE YOU ARE FAR FROM PERFECT. tHAT BEING SO UNDERSTAND YOU NEED THE SAVIOUR)
Good on you then laddy (YES ITS WONDERFULL CC THAT YOUARE NOW IN CHRIST. PRAISE THE LORD!! MAY YOU GO FROM STRENGTH TO STRENGTH))
If any God, sees that as fit, to behold a place for that individual next to him in heaven, whilst that individual is perpetuating hate, resentment or aversion on a daily basis, knowing his God will continuously cleans him of his sins...... what God is that.(AGAIN YOU SHOW APPALLING IGNORANCE DA - ALL HAVE SINNED AND ALL KEEP ON SINNING. DA YOU SIMPLY ARE SO IGNORANT. READ THE BIBLE AND ASK GOD TO GIVE YOU UNDERSDTANDING! THE POINT IS ALL OUR SINS ARE PAID FOR. WE SERVE THE LORD NOT TO EARN BROWNIE POINTS BUT BECUASE HE IS WORTHY. THIS TREASURE (THE HOLY SPIRIT) IS THOUGH IN EARTHEN JARS.)
You are still a very lost lamb CC, with no inclination of which direction at all to go in if you are to be believed as being a Christian. (BWAHAHAHAHAHA THE SHEEP THAT HAS BEEN FOUND IS LOST OPINES OU DA. THREE MASSIVE BLUNDERS IN UNDERSTANDING UNDERLINING DA'S COMPLETE IGNORANCE ON THESE MATTERS. THIS WOULD BE HILARIOUS IF THE SUBJECT MATTER WERE NOT SO SERIOUS!)
As Beeno would say, best you up your game son
BEENO'S ADVICE TO YOU DA IS TO SEEK CHRIST. BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO GIVE ADVICE TO CC ON SPIRITUAL MATTERS COME TO THE TRUTH YOURSELF. RIGHT NOW IT IS VERY CLEAR YOU HAVE NO CLUE WHATSOEVER. SAD BUT TRUE.
My board name is Devil's Advocate because I never take things at face value and always question the obvious from all angles
Hahahahahahahahahaha very funny DA. Try exploring the truth in an unbiased manner and yo u will be hugely surprised at the outcome.
What rubbish is this
A just God treats a thief the same as a person who kills 60 million?
Really and how do you know how God will judge them. How do you know the judgement rendered will be wrong.Man I need to be full time here correcting these absurdities. Just about every sentence ahs any error from these non blieving types!!Seventeen years earlier, in his book, Until the Sun Dies, Jastrow had discussed this very problem—a Universe without any adequate explanation for its own existence and, worse still, without any adequate cause for whatever theory scientists might set forth in an attempt to elucidate how it did originate. As Jastrow noted:
Jastrow just cant face the fact there was a cause - God.This great saga of cosmic evolution, to whose truth the majority of scientists subscribe, is the product of an act of creation that took place twenty billion years ago [by evolutionary estimates—BT]. Science, unlike the Bible, has no explanation for the occurrence of that extraordinary event. The Universe, and everything that has happened in it since the beginning of time, are a grand effect without a known cause. An effect without a cause? That is not the world of science; it is world of witchcraft, of wild events and the whims of demons, a medieval world that science has tried to banish. As scientists, what are we to make of this picture? I do not know (1977, p. 21, emp. added)
Beeno
Don't assume I am an Atheist... that would make you the idiot... not me.
Answer my question and stop ducking it every time
Why are the scriptures by the good book not being followed by today's Christians, including you?
And while you are at it, besides quoting bible versus from thousands of years ago, show me one factual iota, that proves without a doubt that God exists, something tangible, not something you read from a book. Don't harp on about galaxies and the universe and matter, just one factual confirmed indication of a God.
Again, answer my question posed above, as a committted Christian, can you swear on your family here in writing, that you would do the necessary to please your God, just like the scriptures say, which would include killing your son, and admonishing your wife and daughter to hell for eternity, to appease your God, if he told you to do it today?, like he told Abraham to kill his son Isaac.
Also, oh enlightened one, without him appearing in front of you, how do you know, if it is not a senile mind, or demented mind, or even your subconcious speaking to you saying it is the Lord speaking.... how do you differentiate this if it is only voices?
Stop running now Beeno..... Man up
ALSO WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE CC??
Who are you two to judge any others with different beliefs?
Calling them idiots, fools, insane
Come now boy wonder, as you say, only God can judge..... so are you now God?
What an idiot
Most remarkable of all is the fact that in science, as in the Bible, the World begins with an act of creation. That view has not always been held by scientists. Only as a result of the most recent discoveries can we say with a fair degree of confidence that the world has not existed forever; that it began abruptly, without apparent cause, in a blinding event that defies scientific explanation (1977, p. 19).
The conclusion to be drawn from the scientific data was inescapable, as Dr. Jastrow himself admitted when he wrote: “The lingering decline predicted by astronomers for the end of the world differs from the explosive conditions they have calculated for its birth, but the impact is the same: modern science denies an eternal existence to the Universe, either in the past or in the future” (1977, p
ROOITWIT NOTE THE WORD MODERN. B WAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
Really now
Where does he call them insane or stupid....like you do.... and you are not judging?
Biblical truths you say..........
You have still not answered my question regarding your family and the scriptures, which are biblical truths Beeno?
Surely a true Christian would not shy away from the question I am wanting an answer for?
Who would ever have thought
I actually agree with Rooinek for once
What is going wrong with the world these days
I see you completely lack the courage of your own convictions Beeno.
What a hypocrite Christian of note, preaching to everyone on here, but you will not put your own "Word of God" or "Biblical truths" on the line when confronted by some other possible truth.
Pathetic..... caught in your own web of delusion
"Also could you please acknowledge all the times I have proved you have no clue.Hahahahhahahaha" I asked for one iota......... still waiting..... you have proven diddly. If anyone has no clue it's you, because all you have proven to me so far, is that you can read a book, preach what it says in that book as the truth, but not admit to why it makes no sense to Christians of today, including you. Told you already, you are doing a superb job for Satan himself here
You see CC
Here is what a real ignorant dumb ass is. He reads one book, believes it with all his might, prays every day to continue being absolved because he is a twat like you, then prays again the next day so he can continue to be a twat, like you, but alas a saved one, then spreads the word of a master that some book told him to worship.
The ignorant dumb ass also can't, or won't, answer or ask logical questions.
A not so ignorant dumb ass reads the same book, questions certain things about that book, and has an open mind regarding what could, should or would have happened so many many years ago.
A not so ignorant dumb ass will question, query, and seek and ask logical answers
My take.... it that the second description of an ignorant dumb ass is a tad better than the first.
We all know which one you are, you have preached it to all of us
CC and Beeno
Put your convictions down in writing and stop bleating like blind sheep
If you heard a voice in your mind telling you to sacrifice your entire family now, and you will be allowed into heaven, but the Lord tells you that he will not reveal himself to you, as a test of your faith in him to still perform the task.
Would you do it.... yes or no
I would never so it, simple as that, so you have my answer.
At least put these convictions of yours down in writing and stop being so pathetically weak.
is Wikipedia's article on what they call the "creation-evolution controversy".
I know in the past you've proven to be too stupid to even perform the simple task of clicking on a link so I've pasted an extract here for you (yes, even though I know you're too intolerant and narrow minded to read it . . . but hey, at least I can't be accused of not trying!) . . .
"The creation–evolution controversy (also termed the creation vs. evolution debate or the origins debate) involves a recurring cultural, political, and theological dispute about the origins of the Earth, of humanity, and of other life. This debate rages most publicly in the United States, and to a lesser extent in Europe and elsewhere,[1] often portrayed as part of a culture war.[2]
The level of support for evolution is extremely high within the scientific community and in academia, with 95% of scientists supporting evolution.[3][4][5][6][7][8] Support for Abrahamic religions' accounts or other creationist alternatives is very low among scientists, and virtually nonexistent among scientists in the relevant fields.[9]
Christian fundamentalists dispute the evidence of common descent of humans and other animals as demonstrated in modern paleontology, genetics, histology and cladistics and those other sub-disciplines which are based upon the conclusions of modern evolutionary biology, geology, cosmology, and other related fields. They argue for the Abrahamic accounts of creation, framing them as reputable science ("creation science"). While the controversy has a long history,[10] today it is mainly over what constitutes good science education,[11][12] with the politics of creationism primarily focusing on the teaching of creation and evolution in public education.[13][14][15][16][17]
A 2014 Gallup survey reports, "More than four in 10 Americans continue to believe that God created humans in their present form 10,000 years ago, a view that has changed little over the past three decades. Half of Americans believe humans evolved, with the majority of these saying God guided the evolutionary process. However, the percentage who say God was not involved is rising."[18]
The debate is sometimes portrayed as being between science and religion,
but as the United States National Academy of Sciences states:
"Today, many religious denominations accept that biological evolution has produced the diversity of living things over billions of years of Earth's history. Many have issued statements observing that evolution and the tenets of their faiths are compatible. Scientists and theologians have written eloquently about their awe and wonder at the history of the universe and of life on this planet, explaining that they see no conflict between their faith in God and the evidence for evolution. Religious denominations that do not accept the occurrence of evolution tend to be those that believe in strictly literal interpretations of religious texts."
—National Academy of Sciences,
Science, Evolution, and Creationism[19]
Okay Baboon-ou, now did you notice this bit . . . "The level of support for evolution is extremely high within the scientific community and in academia, with 95% of scientists supporting evolution."
How about this . . . "Support for Abrahamic religions' accounts or other creationist alternatives is very low among scientists, and virtually nonexistent among scientists in the relevant fields."
Do you understand? You happy clappy fundamentalist bible bashers are among a tiny minority of people stupid enough to consider "creation science" to be a real science. Everyone else thinks it's a steaming pile of horseshit so please, stop copying and pasting all this utter drivel from your answersingenesis.org website and either think for yourself or talk about something else.
Okay?
You've been a bad boy today CC
DO NOT forgot to purge yourself of these horrible thoughts you have of me tonight when you seek absolution.
I would hate to see you end up anywhere else besides up there
