Insulting atheists for a change.

Don't take this seriously. It's just a cruel argument.

Rather think of it as an argument that takes the same emotional liberties that atheist arguments against religion often opt for. IE nothing is sacred and that which you hold the most dear is actually meaningless.

How much do you love your children? Have you prioritised their well-being since day dot? Do you miss them when they're not around and would you give your life for them if faced with the choice?

You poor, sad and confused meatsacks. 

Despite the most insurmountable odds, you were given an opportunity to learn about your world but instead you fell at the hurdle of biology and have never gotten up since. Your entire life has been devoted to a chemical equation that you have been able to do naught about but balance. 

That deep love that you feel. It's not love at all. Your sense of connection is fake and the nature of your purpose is nothing but the result of a mixture of chemicals.

In reality, you are no different to a long time junkie. Dragged around by your nose with the promise of your next endorphine hit. Whether you inject heroin or jump through the hoops biology has set out for you to get your high...you are a druggie and in your case, your children and grandchildren are just the tools used to get your fix. And it makes you feel worthy, loving and like you have purpose. Like a good little machine should.

Your love for them is rooted in a handfull of chemicals that your brain gives you access to when you do little deeds that strengthen the odds of successful propagation.

What sad little creatures. "Feeling so deeply and loving so unconditionally". Do you actually think that it is love you feel? 

Think about your children. Odds are, there is very little special about them. They're likely just run of the mill people that haven't contributed much to the world. Yet your chest swells with pride when you regale the world with tales of their mundane deeds.  

The responsibility you felt and let guide your life since they first opened their little eyes is nothing but a carrot and stick. And you've been chasing that carrot "endorphins" ever since.

Remove your little chemical reward and what's left. I'll tell you. Nothing. Nothing but memories of when the feel good chemical still pumped through your brain. Memories that you translate as good times and righteous love. Memories of chemicals. Not memories "love".

But wait...what's that I hear you say..."my love for my children is more than chemical".

Oh, so spiritual? Esoteric? Energetic? 

Well then prove it, you fucking junkie. Just like all chemically dependant losers, you'll find ways to justify your need. You'll go to the ends of the earth to prove to yourself that you need it. That it gives you meaning and purpose. That it makes you feel better. That it's how it should be and you are willing to sacrifice anything to get it.

Well, you can't prove it and since you can't... you are nothing and your children aren't much more. Then accept that your life is just as meaningless and pathetic as theirs no doubt will turn out be. Addiction, they say, is hereditary.

You "deep emotional connection to them" is nothing more than...C158H253N41O44S and it weighs 3463.013 Da.

You've wasted your time on earth by giving in to a chemical drive and then wallowing in addiction from that day on.

Sad, pathetic...meatsack.

When last have you been abducted Plum?  

When was your last hit of endorphin love, Shark?

Are you suggesting there has to be a belief in God to have emotion? That might be true for people who use the Devil and God to explain evil and good respectively. 

I think you are explaining the physical process of h ow people feel emotions. Assuming your description is true, it does not mean the emotions are not real. 

It is like explaining the physical process of how people produce sound to speak, it does not make the meaning any less. Or the sensation process of feeling pain when hurting yourself like stubbing a toe etc. It is real, no matter how the physical process occurs. 

Seeing aliens may even seem real...

So if I gave you a strong psychedelic, and your reality was replaced by an entirely new one. 

You suggesting that your vision is real? The Dragon or unicorn. They exist. Actually exist and have "meaning"?

In that sense, your dreams are real too. Anything you can imagine in your mind is just as real as the computer in front of you right now? Literally on par?

"Assuming your description is true, it does not mean the emotions are not real."

As I said in my other post, when you are sleeping, you don't even know if you are alive or dead.

You only realise that you are alive when you wake up ……

So when you are dead, you won't realise it either

"If you thought you saw an alien the feeling would be real, even if it was just an apparition."

I was just about to say something similar

In your minds eye, if you are convinced that you saw something..... then you saw something, and nothing else or nobody else is going to convince you otherwise...even if your mind made it up for you

On the flip side...….just like those pilots that saw this elongated craft moving from 100 feet off the water, to 50 000 feet in the air in milliseconds.... with no exhaust or thrust..… it defies human belief to mostly everyone who reads that article..... but to those people involved...… it was 500% real

Where did I assume this?

"It is still a baseless argument, assuming that you mean someone has to have a belief in God for your reality to be real- or to seem real. You seem to be disproving your o wn argument."

Can you try to summarise the basis of your argument - are you implying that not having a religious belief impacts someone's ability to feel emotion? 

The reality of God is not verifiable by our normal means, unless he reveals himself. So it's a question of belief.

But absent a deity,  life has no agreed purpose, other than reproduction....and even that is questionable. Does it really matter if man is healthier, richer, wiser? Maybe the planet would be better off without us.

So we elevate causes like combating Global Warming to a religious status. Deniers are the heretics the Inquisition tortured. Scientists are the new high priests that cannot be questioned. Hell is now a steaming planet covered in water.

Nothing is new under the sun.....there has to be a cause, an enemy, a doom and a source  of the truth. For example those who  have read a Tale of Two Cities will recognize AOC as Madame Defarge.....'vengeance and retribution require a long time, it is the rule'

Shark

What I am saying is that you are monkey, jumping through hoops to feel good.

And even the strongest emotion you feel, is nothing but an illusion, existing only in your mind and nowhere else. 

Since you bring God into it, and considering the above, tell me how you are any different to a Christian?

What a lode of cobblers, feelings are what make us human. 

You are trying to tell me since chemical reactions cause these feelings they are not real?

How do you know whether this is what causes you to belive in a god?

I have read some drivel on here but load of shit takes the cake.

The emotions i feel for my children is real and whatever the cause is irrelevant. If you think you only have feelings for your kids because a god bestowed this on you are warped beyond belief. If tomorrow you realized that your god was not real you would stop loving them?

You my friend need help

I do not like discussing religion on this site.  I believe that religion is what you believe within yourself and that is how you live,   You can be a bad criminal or a well-behaved person and that is what counts in life,

What I have seen in reality in life is what actually happened,  Mozart refers to Madame Defarge - but she was not alone in what se was doing,  I do believe that nations have gone through bad patches in their history - nothing could really be as bad as the Communists were in various countries.   Millions of people were murdered  by the government  and  millions more died from starvation.   The fact is that the oppressed people have used religious believes to get through those dark periods.   They pray for an improvement in their lives and that is all they can do. 

In the USSR the Russian Orthodox Church is now stronger than they ever were before the Communists took over because the people believe their decade long prayers have been answered.

What people believe in is their own business and I do not think debates as is happening on this site will change the situation.   I rather think that Mozart is correct in what he wrote above.   

Why do we live - why are we on earth at all.   Why are their ghosts around and why do we sometimes see those ghosts,   I have myself seen  one of those and I was perfectly clear in what I saw.     I was not hallucin ating - what happened was very real.                               

"Also being a good person should be an end in itself, not the motive to get an afterlife. "

Agreed and being a Christian is not supposed to be about the afterlife.  It's more than a way of life too. It's an outlook on life...a purpose...and ultimately it's not only about serving God. Being a good person and serving others is serving God...it's The Narrow Path, but it leads to Heaven on Earth...its the way to real happiness and fulfillment...and judging others or looking down at people is not part of it at all.

Sadder the point Plum is making for the sake of debate, is actually more of an 'atheist' argument...namely that our deepest emotions don't flow from innate god given values, but from  the interaction of chemicals in our body. 

That doesn't make those emotions any less admirable....just that they don't come from a soul but from our body's physics.

What flows from that is that many 'bad' people are just the victims of a poor chemical engine. And given how many mental illnesses are improved with drugs, it's hard to ignore that argument.

From what I gather, the general consensus seems to be that it doesn't really matter how one derives your emotional reality. As long as it's real to you. 

So there are two key words there. Real and you. Shall we attempt seeing what exactly "you" is? 

Fueding with neighbors and wanting some chick you still see yourself with despite having been married for 40 years. All superficial and non-essential. Let's remove them because they're not really you, right?

Now let's look at the more serious stuff. This things you love the most. What you truly desire. Fears. The security you've created for your family and what it means to you. Empathy. Your perceived place in the world.

Are your feelings toward or ability to perceive those emotions what defines you? Your humanity?

Well, the funny thing is, as you go deeper and deeper toward finding the real you, a correlation with base desired biological outcomes becomes more prevalent.

So instead of finding increasing complexity as one would expect when nearing the essence of "being human", the opposite actually happens. 

The nearer you get to humanity the more similarity you find with plants and animals. 

You find fear response, prioritisation of propagation, degrees of relatedness, resource acquisition and competition, niche exploitation, territorial behaviour, adaptation to environment, and so on.

And these are supposed to be the things that set us apart yet actually just remind us that we're sophisticated animals. Nothing more.

A dog wants to be safe? It wants to protect its children. It is territorial and will sacrifice for it's family along the same rules of relatedness as a human would. It competes for resources and is also afraid of the unknown.

So what's left? Where's the human bit?

Well, between a dog and person, the only difference is a slightly more complicated operating system.

Then that must be what a human is. A better "machine". 

As better machines, we can compute deeper meaning into our biological desired outcomes. Really, computational power and resiliance is all that sets us apart, not feelings.

But we never set the outcomes. I don't remember being given the chance to decide what I'd innately prioritise. This then says that your love for your children doesn't actually come from you at all. 

I'll say it one more time, just for you, Sader...

Your love for your children doesn't come from you. It was just put there, to keep your better computer busy while biology has it's way with you.

But sure, it's real, meaningful, righteous and special...right?

Rugby Legend

5033 posts""Your love for your children doesn't come from you. It was just put there, to keep your better computer busy while biology has it's way with you"".

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Opinion, not fact... It is clear you are a religious person, however, believing in something does not make it true. 

There may be a creator, but they're also may not be. What would the purpose of life be if everything is ordained? It is like saying everything is destiny. 

So even if there is a creator, people have self-determination. Some family members hate each other- was this also from God? 

It's clear that I'm religious?

Oh, how so?

I'm not religious at all. 

Does that make it more difficult for you?

"Being a good person and serving others is serving God"

If being a good person and serving others, is serving God...…. then why is God not good...…. to so many people who do actually deserve it...…..

Also...…. since God is not good to so many other people, is treating them in that exact same negative manner...... as God did...... also serving God...... because he also does this to people?

DA you don't believe, you don't want real answers, you are asking these questions to poke holes in my beliefs. You have closed your mind to it...so what would the purpose be for me to try and answer these questions?

"DA you don't believe, you don't want real answers"

Oh please …… just look at yourself right here Db...… with your incredibly sanctimonious and holier than though bullshit attitude to this..... I asked a very simple question....

So I don't want any "real" answers now...……

I'm curious..... what makes your answers, as well as Beeno's and CC's... any more "real" to my answers

Stop with the I am better than you approach Db..... you have tried that for a while now with various posters......… it is getting incredibly lame and pathetic...……...you are getting like Beeno and CC now...… "You Lot"...… Your Kind"...…. You Shallow People"...…."Your Lot"...… "You know Nothing"...…"I know the real answers, not you..... you are nothing"

You are not better than me in any way, shape or form......as we stand as men right now...…. so get over yourself Db, it is getting rather pathetic how you continue to project yourself as better than others on this forum...…. which you may not notice, but you do very often.....

What a crock of shit man...… it's fucking hilarious...….. thanks for the laugh

LMFAO

Well, Shark

Does it make it ever more difficult for you now that I've shared my non-religious status?

The fact is, your love for your children is just like a cat's love of chasing things. It's clearly demonstrable and not a hypothesis. It would be up to you to disproved the theory. That's how science works.  

It's useful in terms of a desired outcome. And that's the only reason you feel it.

Can you show how your love for your children does not benefit successful propagation of your genes?

Well, DA, I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm not gonna be bullied into answering a loaded question...

A lot of accusations in that post, but you don't deny what I claimed...

I have not attacked your beliefs or you right to believe, I'm responding to constant attacks on my own...and you know as well as I do that your "simple question" is just another attack on Christians...you call other posters angry, but it's hard to miss the anger in your own responses.

Just for curiosity's sake, what about me in particular pisses you off so much?

God can be known as Jesus said if you seek me in earnest you will find. This is a personal knowing.

There there is the knowing that there is a God. This can be deduced by logic as i have demonstrated in the universe from nothing debate. the incredible universe, DNA etc

Prof John Lennox was debating, very successfully, atheist Richard Dawkins. Dawkins was waxing lyrical about certain virtuous moral principles he said he held. At this point Lennox reminded Dawkins of what he had wrote. Dawkins working logically from his atheist premises had argued long and hard that there was no such thing as morality. everything was just atoms,molecules, random permutations etc. There was no right and no wrong. So how can you Richard be arguing from a moral point of view after writing all this!

Dawkins was stunned and could give no coherent reply. This was a killer blow as Lennox blew the lying nutter away.

"John Carson Lennox is a British mathematician specialising in group theory, a philosopher of science and a Christian apologist. He is Emeritus Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford and an Emeritus Fellow in Mathematics and Philosophy of Science at Green Templeton College, Oxford University"

He spoke at UCT at a packed out Baxter Theatre. He got a standing ovation. His books are outstanding.

So you see oaks Dawkins is quite right atoms, molecules etc cannot explain morality existing.  Richard should have realised Lennox would acquaint himself with the books he had written as preparation for the debates and resisted the temptation for moral posturing when he argues there are no morals, right or wrong!. 

Hitler, Soros etc can't be faulted. That would make Cloudy Clown very happy! Let's be nice! Hahahahhahahaha

When he couldn't explain how life began to exist on earth, Dawkins, a biologist, suggested life could have come from other planets!!!! Not kidding you!  So where did  life on the other planets come from then Richard.  Talk about making a prize jackass of yourself!!

What a debacle for poor Richard but he made quite a tidy sum selling his BS books to very Foolish atheists! The only people gullible enough to suck up the drivel like unthinking sponges.

Plum, if you are saying that love does not come from you- it appears to imply that you mean this is divinely inspired- e.g. a God. Then you say you are not religious? If you are not religious, why create a post that talks about criticising atheists? Reading your posts on this message board, I don't think you are clear what your own opinion is. This thread, in particular, seems to prove this. 

You may believe that love is the same as a cat chasing a shiny toy, and that it is a selfish act of possession. That is your opinion, not a scientific fact. For example, family members would die to save each other- or give a body organ for a medical transplant. Close friends (not a family member) can also do this- even random strangers have sometimes risked their own lives to save other people. People have even been saved from Sharks by dolphins etc. The "human" bit you mention seems to be more about religion- along the lines of a soul etc. So love or goodwill can be more than the selfish act of possession because it is putting the needs of someone else above your own. Smarter mammals on earth appear to also capable of this - sometimes more than many humans. Some family members have murdered each other, so it is not inherent.  People have been best friends and ended up committing murder, as with spouses. 

Like I said earlier, there is so much inconsistency in your posts - perhaps because you have divided opinions. You seem to disprove your own argument, whatever it is by taking both counter sides of the argument. Even if it was true that love was just a selfish act of possession- then this applies to both religious and non-religious people - so it has no bearing on being an athiest- the original topic of this thread. 

LOL, Shark

Ja, i post from my phone mostly and never edit anything. So, i'm sure it often comes out a tad muddled. Anyway, it's just for fun man. Everyone loves their kids. I'm just throwing up an argument because why not. As usual, I remain civil...haha

No, i'm not talking about personal selfishness. Nothing to do with ownership.

What i'm saying is, love does not originate purely as the selfless, spontaneous and personal result of experience. 

You may experience it personally, but it's not individually derived. It's is common, simple, chemically based and has a specific purpose which you have no say in. 

I've read a lot about evolutionary science. So maybe I'm jumping the gun. Let me explain the cat analogy and how love is a byproduct of greater computing power...

Kittens that play more, are the most likely to be successful hunters. Successful hunters are likely to be the best providers. The best providers are more likely to pass on their genes cos they can feed their kids. Simple evolution.

Humans have a mental capacity that allows them ask, "Who am i?" For whatever reason, it became advantageous for us to have bigger and smarter brains. Hunting, walking on two legs...eating more fish, whatever. It's a benefit but it also poses problems. 

If we give the cat that ability(to ask who am i?)...do you see how it would be problem if the smart cat now suddenly begins questioning why it wants to procreate? Why should it even want to have sex? Especially when it comes with kittens as the result. Why not just lay in the sun all day, provide only for itself and live a merry life? Surely thats most efficient route?

Well, first sex needs to be fun enough to be desirable. As far as humans are concerned...well, most of the internet is porn. So we can safely assume that evolution solved that problem. We all want to pomp.

Now lots of sex is going on, and lots of babies are born but none of them survive because there is no incentive to look after them. This does not help the gene propagate. How does one solve this problem? 

By evolving brain chemistry to suite the bigger brain. From looking at pictures of kittens, puppies and babies to seeing them in real life, your brain chemistry is affected. Not only that but the way the young of most mammalian species look is designed to be non-agressive while inspiring even cross-species emotions of paternity/maternity through common chemistry between the perceiver and infant. (Think about that for a moment. What does it say about earth's gene pool in terms of specialising but always having back up plans in place???) This is why dogs adopt kitten pups and birds look after puppies, etc.

But then for your specific species and your own offspring, evolution needs to up its game. I mean, you'll be needed in the infant's life for at least the first twelve years. You have to be kept interested and invested. 

How could evolution solve that one. How does it make you a reliable propagator of the gene pool...just like the playing cats are good propagators of theirs.

Loving your children is the simple and overarching solution to this problem for humans. With lesser animals this is not necessary because they'll respond to scent, tactile and visual stimuli sufficiently and without question. They're not smart enough to ask "Why?"

So kittens playing to stimulate and develop hunting skills or people loving their children. They're all just solutions to very long and complicated sequence of operation that aims to pass genes down generations. There is no difference between them. 

So yes, selfish in terms of the Selfish Gene, but not consciously selfish in the ownership sense. 

And so when i say that your love does not come from you, I'm not invoking nor ruling out a supreme being or force. I'm just saying that according to what atheists and most agnostics believe, and following the science, your love does not come from you. 

It's only as significant in your mind as what a shiny toy is in a cats mind with the goal being the same.

If it's not personally derived then that qualifies it as being objectively fake. Regardless of how you experience it. 

And it makes us all monkeys, jumping through hoops for another h it of dopamine. 

...never stopping to ask exactly why we feel this way despite having the abstract ability to do so.

"Like I said earlier, there is so much inconsistency in your posts - perhaps because you have divided opinions. You seem to disprove your own argument, whatever it is by taking both counter sides of the argument. Even if it was true that love was just a selfish act of possession- then this applies to both religious and non-religious people - so it has no bearing on being an athiest- the original topic of this thread" 

Religious people don't subscribe to evolution, mostly. They derive love from the metaphysical. In other words, you cannot make an argument against it since you are forced to begin from their unproven point of view. 

It's like having to start from the point of view of love being objectively 100% real. 

Now, do you see why Atheist is in the title?

"I have not attacked your beliefs or you right to believe, I'm responding to constant attacks on my own..."

LMAO, yeah ok...… try and shape and twist it anyway that makes you feel better

You claim that you don't attack anyone's belief or their right to believe..... you just tell them that only you have the "real" answers....

What a joke

The joke is on you. It's clear that you are not really interested in a discussion on the subject. 

You and I know that you didn't ask those question because you are interested in an answer. You are hoping for some reply to give you a reason to mock Christianity some more. Well, I'm not playing that game anymore. 

"You claim that you don't attack anyone's belief or their right to believe..... you just tell them that only you have the "real" answers...."

And who's twisting things now? That's not what I said at all...and from context it should have been crystal clear...unles you came looking for an argument or you have a preconceived opinion of what my position is. 

"The joke is on you. It's clear that you are not really interested in a discussion on the subject"

All one has to do is read your posts to other people on this forum, who have a different view to yours...… it is quite clear what the intentions of your responses are...…

Now I see that you are intimately aware of what all my intentions are when I post questions on here...…. another crock of shit from you...…

Again, another attempt to portray the image of being better than someone else...…

You certainly are something Db

“ and that's because they just can't bear the thought that all their faith was for nothing and we'll all have the same end regardless of whether we still believe in some outlandish fairy stories and indoctrinated beliefs or not.”

You know that for a fact because...? 

"Not for the first time I'll quote Nietzsche who said "faith is for people who don't want to know the truth."

Opinion ...and wrong one at that, from my perspective. 

" but at some stage you need to grow up, stop having blind faith in primitive dogma and think for yourself. "

That's just it. Blind faith isn't required.  You are supposed to question things and explore all things. Just because lots of people choose not to question things, does not mean everyone is like that.

"and we all have a built in conscience that replaces the need for religion or faith."

Gee, I wonder how that happened. 

"As I said in my other post, when you are sleeping, you don't even know if you are alive or dead.

You only realise that you are alive when you wake up ……

So when you are dead, you won't realise it either"

Is that a fact ... or ...  just another thumbsuck job, DA?

You sound desperate for an answer. An answer that’ll set your troubled heart at ease. An answer that allows you to go on living your life, without the fear of consequence.

Nothing else will do, right?  Not even the truth, right?

Seems the answer I gave you is a little too unsettling ... so best come up with a better version, huh?

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!!!

Like I said earlier ... you aren’t prepared to look at anything that makes you feel uncomfortable ... even the truth will be replaced by some twisted version ... anything that sets you at ease will do.  

At ease??? Can anyone be at ease if he has doubts? I know I could never believe my own lies. Are you able to believe your own lies, DA?

Well ... the answer I gave you hints at a life after death ... and that just won’t do.

Tell me DA ... when you get to the other side ... and you will ... what happens when you find someone waiting there for you? How are you going to explain yourself to Him? What excuses are you going to use? Do you think any of them will qualify you for a pardon?

Did you lose consciousness when you were ill? Were you aware of your surroundings when unconscious ... or was it simply not knowing anything till you regained consciousness?

Is that what you’re basing your assumptions on? Surly you aren’t that shallow?

Me seeing the life force leave my grandfather still has you at odds ... so much so that you’re now implying that I hallucinated it all. Will that explain away the possibility of life after death?

After all there must be something out there that fits in with your atheist version ... and if it doesn’t fit ... make it fit ... you can always depend on your thumb to come through for you.

"Tell me DA ... when you get to the other side ... and you will ... what happens when you find someone waiting there for you? How are you going to explain yourself to Him? What excuses are you going to use? Do you think any of them will qualify you for a pardon?"

Lol, look at you ……. trying incredibly hard to convince me that there is some other side.....

Not sure if you are trying to convince me, or just reassure yourself of that...…. you do bang on about it....

Tell me CC, what will you do when you get to the other side...… and you will...… only to find out that there in nothing there...…?

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha….. you see what I just did...…. I just swung it straight back at you...… you know why..... because I can...… and I could be correct …..and you know it...… and boy that just bugs the shit out of you...… it tugs away at all those many insecurities that you have, because you are nearing the end.....

You "think" there might be something on the other side...…. what a pity if there in nothing hey?...….. all that expectation for nothing...…..dammit man..... that would suck for you wouldn't it......? I mean all that invested time...… energy...…. preaching...….. insulting people......…...shit man.

Having said that...….. on behaviour alone, you would not be pardoned, irrespective of if you believe yourself to be a Christian...… because you definitely don't behave like one...……...or do you believe that going to church every Sunday and getting absolved of all your "sins" makes you a better person than those that don't...….

Just by how you have repeatedly treated people on this forum alone...…. shows me very clearly what kind of character you are...….. shady...… unscrupulous..... deceitful

"Me seeing the life force leave my grandfather still has you at odds ... so much so that you’re now implying that I hallucinated it all. Will that explain away the possibility of life after death"

At odds?.... LMFAO

You saw what you wanted to see.... period...… whether it was a puff of smoke, or a deep seated gut feeling..... or some unexpected feeling...…. you saw that...… or felt that...….and now because you yourself saw that and felt that...….. you are now in a position to 500% confirm that the soul or life force leaves the body when death comes...…….. you are fucking hilarious oke..

Do you really think that much of yourself...…… get over yourself CC..... you will see what you want to see...… just like everyone else in this world...… we all see and experience different things...… so whether you hallucinated it..... dreamt it...…. made it up to feel better about yourself..... I quite frankly couldn't care less which one it is........…. if it makes you feel better about life and about yourself and what choices you have made with your life..... cool......… just don't try and come on here and confirm to all the posters here that what you saw, is now a confirmed fact of life, and it has now been scientifically proven.......… just because you saw it...…. you are taking the piss bro...…  you are fucking hilarious dude

This is from the same guy who says that his God does not even know me at all...…. yet his God created me...…. you are the very confused one CC...... not me.

"You are supposed to question things and explore all things"

LMFAO..... the irony..... or hypocrisy...….. I'm not sure which one is a better fit

"you aren’t prepared to look at anything that makes you feel uncomfortable ... even the truth will be replaced by some twisted version ... anything that sets you at ease will do"

Damn straight...….bro

I am extremely comfortable and at ease with what and how I believe.....

I am not the one fabricating shit, to make me feel better about myself and what and how I believe in something.....

"Did you lose consciousness when you were ill? Were you aware of your surroundings when unconscious"

Well, I could tell you that I was unconscious...…. I could even tell you that I was clinically dead for a while...… and that I saw and experienced for a fact that there was absolutely nothing on "the other side"...…...but we both know that even if that were very true....which it isn't...…... it would mean sweet fuck all to you...…. you would still believe what you believe....so why bother asking